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27-11-2014 06:50 PM
27-11-2014 06:50 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
Possibly your GP has been keeping abreast of the spike in deaths with Oxycodone.. News released this week or last said that particular drug is causing accidental deaths in high numbers..
So perhaps there's an alternative somwhere between panadaol and the oxy range..
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28-11-2014 06:51 PM
28-11-2014 06:51 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
It's true.
As you've all pointed out. Just this group here are enough to be regarded as a sample population. From here studies could be begun and stats statted.
People talk about the mental illness stygma.
No one really understands just how many aspects of life it pervades.
There is a physician ib Redcliffe who refuses to administer to the mentally ill. I've met this man,
The irony for me was he was completely covered in psoriasis. An autoimmune disease triggered by anxiety and stress.
Seems to be, just my opinion that he's afraid the seeing someone mentally ill would be like looking in the mirror.
And I think that perhaps the beginnings of all stygma is merely that
It's fear. Fear that this could happen to me.
And fair enough. We deal with fear hourly, many of us, don't we. It's not pleasant, it's challenging, it's tedious and it does'nt go away no matter how well you rationalise.
People are afraid to be afraid. It's the single commonality in all mental illnesses. There is alwyas fear.
We fear new meds, we fear judgement, we fear our symptoms, we fear our lives, we fear our deaths.
And we have every right to be fearful. It's scary being ill.
For 30 years I've bben ill.
I still am afraid.
But fear that drives people away is a dangerous fear. And that's what these doctors are doing. they are driving us away.
How do we stop them neglecting us.
refuse to be driven away. Let's face it. We have the guts to get up every day and face another day of uncertainty. We have the guts to face up to this lot.
A specialist said to me not long ago.
Everyone has problems you know.
I said yes we all have problems, challenges and issues. All of us. The difference is that I;ve got all the same issues you have plus all the ones that my illness supplies as well.
We are a tough breed. Simply because we carried the same burdens others carry and then we carry the burden of illness as well.
Generally we only bitch about the illness related stuff. Whereas we've all heard people go on about how crap their lives are and how difficult everything is.
Most of us don't do that.
We are strong.
Perhaps the only reason we could possibly have to actually be mentally ill is to be stronger. If there is a why? for it, maybe that's it.
Keep bringing these topics up. I know that I raise them on different committees and discussion groups.
Keep it coming. Sooner or later change will come and we are to be part of making that change happen.
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30-11-2014 02:14 PM - edited 30-11-2014 02:17 PM
30-11-2014 02:14 PM - edited 30-11-2014 02:17 PM
Re: Warning: this skull may contain some sanity
Hi Ivana,
I have been my usual flippant and sarcastic self, pardon me. That was not a sarcastic 'pardon me'.
What I should have made clear was that the doc needs to believe that they and you are having a consult in an atmosphere of mutual respect and understanding that can be of benefit to you both.
The doc might be ready to decide that you are unable or unwilling to listen, interact positively, and implement plans that will be mutually agreed upon.
You might be ready to decide that the doc will be authoritarian, condescending, dismissive, and un-professional.
No, I was not advocating that people dissemble, or conceal the very conditions that have necessitated the consult.
In interpersonal relations I aspire to politeness and etiquette. Aspire to, and not always acheive.
If the consult goes well, you both get to work in harmony. If not, the consult is a WOFTAM (Waste Of F****ing Time And Money), and there'll be tears before bedtime all 'round.
Case in point is the recent relations of Tony Abbott and Vladimir Putin. What a pair of putzes.
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30-11-2014 02:26 PM
30-11-2014 02:26 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
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30-11-2014 05:48 PM
30-11-2014 05:48 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
Hey Bat
I'm digging the huour.
it's a big gun is'nt it?
I have a badge I like to wear.
It asks
"DOES THE NOISE IN MY HEAD BOTHER YOU?"
My 12yo daughter cackles when she sees it.
Hope endures
Rick
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09-12-2014 07:55 PM
09-12-2014 07:55 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
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09-12-2014 09:09 PM
09-12-2014 09:09 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
i have had a conversation on this topic with a friend before- we joked and shock our heads: Some times you feel like you need to keep copies of all your medical history in one big folder to present to your doctor- like a resume- but its proof of what issues and treatments you had when- and then their out comes. But of course then you may be seen as a hypochondriac for being so organised.
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09-12-2014 10:12 PM
09-12-2014 10:12 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
I am allergic to penicillin and some other meds, my local GP knows, but when I needed antibiotics in NSW, they didn't.
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11-12-2014 01:37 AM
11-12-2014 01:37 AM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
If you break your arm, try getting a holistic approach....in my case and they were not aware of any MI so I was just a busted arm...it healed but the medico was not very interested in that it did not work very well and after some pointed questions by me acquiesced into referring me to physio.
I think we have a long long way to go, but at least one is not locked away in an attic or chained to a wall any more
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11-12-2014 06:10 PM
11-12-2014 06:10 PM
Re: How do we stop doctors neglecting Physical Illnesses of people with Mental Illnesses?
However I'm not sure about the "no longer chained to the wall bit"
Google the term James Pascoe
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