Christian Chat

[ENKELI]

@DownMoreThanUp hey my brother, I am sitting with you with my arm around you in support. Sorry you're not feeling good. I'm lifting you up to Jesus for peace.

I am in total agreement with you regarding posts that moderators edit for the variety of reasons.

I struggle with this forum being inclusive as I feel that we as a society have become so inclusive and so woke that we are starting to become exclusive. And people are not learning how to cope. When I was first diagnosed with depression back in 2004 there was still a stigma around MH as you would surely know. There was no online community and while there was Lifeline and other organisations like that we pretty much struggled through it alone. I am glad that we have more support these days but what I have also seen is that instead of it being 1 in 5 people having a MH diagnosis, it is now 1 in 3.

People have been wrapped in cotton wool and told that it's okay to feel triggered by a "graphic" picture or by someone posting an innocuous comment that upsets someone who is a little too fragile.

I have a friend who has been seeing a psychologist for nearly 3 years because she felt she was bullied at school. The psych has not offered any coping strategies and it's like she is paying $300 for someone to talk to. 

If people turn the TV on, rad a magazine, go out in the public they are going to see the things that Sane disallows.

I am grateful I had to stand on my 2 feet during my early days of depression. I learnt how to cope and how to ask for help. Instead of blaming everyone else for my depression I acknowledge that sometimes I have caused the problem and need to take accountability.

@tyme is @DownMoreThanUp allowed to lightly describe the pictures that were removed? ie not in graphic detail but as a generality so that if we choose we can look for them.
Or what if Down posted a trigger warning?
Wouldn't it be great if we were allowed to be honest and post what we want to so long as we posted it with a trigger warning? 
I don't mind my comments being redacted if I have made a comment that hurts another members' feelings or if I accidently post my body size (nice pick up there my darling tymey!) but having my posts deleted because another member didn't want my comments in a thread they were also involved with is almost bullying behaviour.

Sigh. Yet again I have rabbited on and on again.

@DownMoreThanUp @Appleblossom @Realness @tyme @heartathome  I'll be spending time in prayer this afternoon as I potter in my garden, let me know if you have any specific requests 🙏❤️🫂

[tyme]

Hey @ENKELI , Thank you for reaching out and asking about the graphics. They were graphics of Jesus' crucifixtion. 

Even with a trigger warning, we wouldn't be able to publish those graphics. I hear what you are saying in terms of having a trigger warning, but with graphics, they are a little different. We can't put them in spoiler tags or anything, and they were a bit too detailed for the forums.

Feel free to email us if you have any other questions, or if you think there's something we can change, please add it to would sane consider these changes to the forums .

Thank you so much!

[tyme]

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@ENKELI wrote:

@tyme hi darlingheart,

There was a particular incident that occurred and I felt that my concerns went unheard. Thank you for your support, I did as requested and put in some feedback but my concerns were largely ignored (I have yet to get a reply to my response to feedback) so I realise that I will not be able to seek support from the forums and will have to deal with certain things alone.

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Thank you for letting me know. If there is anything else I can do, please email and let me know @ENKELI We want to ensure you feel heard and supported. 

When I think back, I remember when things were really really hard for you. I'm so pleased to see that things have improved for you, and it's great to see how far you have come.

We are grateful to have you and your connection here 🙂

[tyme]

Hello my fellow forumites,

My reading today was from Jeremiah 1:6 "Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child." 

Makes me think that I often say I don't know what to say.. but in God's time, He puts the right words into my mouth as he sees fit. @ENKELI @Appleblossom @Realness @DownMoreThanUp @heartathome 

Any readings to share?

[heartathome]

Good morning @ENKELI 

My parents wouldn't talk about politics or tell me who they voted for. It was a secret when I was a kid! I don't want to see politics on SANE either! I would bypass it. I'm glad they took the original post down as well. 

I don't think any thread is exclusive. It's open to 47,000 people to read and comment! I had a post taken down yesterday. I didn't like it but understand their point of view. Yes, being threatened to be banned would be so upsetting for me! I would fall apart. I can't imagine someone not liking you Enkeli! ☺️ 

Do you have much clutter at home? I have to have a place for everything and am more a minimalist. People call me when they want to de-clutter. I'm savage! 😁

The weather is pretty good if you like the heat. It's going to be 35 degrees today which is hot. I can't complain as it's not as hot in other places and I get the sea breeze.

I hope your day is okay! 💜

[DownMoreThanUp]

@ENKELI Thanks for reaching out dear sister.  Glad you did although i did not read it till today. i felt i better cool down a little and i been very busy building a rat trap for the snakes cannot keep up now my wife has so many chicken, fowl and geese. So far i have not court any. We used to have a rat trap but it could only catch one, if you were lucky, and it was hard to dispose of the rat afterwards. So i have been thinking out a new design and been building it. Hopefully i finish it today, and catch most of those vermin before Winter and food scarcity has them do major damage to our garden or worse our house.

@tyme  i have to disagree with the mods here there is nothing  shocking about depiction of a 2000 year old story EVERYONE knows about without any blood or gore. Neither forbidden image had blood or gore on it, one was a cartoon description of Jesus on the cross, apart of the crucifixion itself being gory then, yet i'm convinced that 2 minutes viewing channel nine news is likely to be 1000 times more gory.

@heartathome @Appleblossom @Realness 

i'm going through a major change in my life ever since the merging of my last alter and the end of my rages. It is still kind of weird to live in harmony together. The strange part is that before i would often not be in touch with myself in my other others yet now this is no longer true, neither is there any animosity left towards myself within myself. Yet i can be drawn into opposite directions with regards to issues and decision making processes. Some friction at times, which usually leads to indecision rather than decision sop far. Not always clear how to find unity within myself, although so far harmony between myself within myself has remained.

i do still also get times i get angry, even badly so. Yet i do not rage at God, myself, other or satan any more, neither do i loose loose control. No voices, hallucinations, psychosis or anxious times either, although my mind can begin to race or i can depressed again from such inner turmoil.

Depression has been bad. Even very low compared to how i have been for the last three years. i have been so down reliving old memories being in my pit years ago.  (Is this similar to reliving and re-determining trauma memories?) For i find that what kept me deep down 21-14 years ago, cannot do so anymore now, and i never agree with how i thought about God, myself or another in those days. Truly now i can easily see Jesus as my suffering life, valuable beyond description and the beloved of God, which i could not see/live in those times. So it has been been very much about meeting Jesus in my past 'lost' life the last 4 weeks. Amazing how much He has taught me through the book of Leviticus about how to let Him sanctify fallen hearts and find grace, forgiveness and fellowship with God through His sacrifice for us on the cross.

i'm 'scheming' a poem on the book Leviticus from a spiritual persepctive but i have not finished internalising the words of the bible book yet, so that might be some time before the words become clear and meaningful to others about that. 

Hoping all of you have a blessed day.

[tyme]

Hey @DownMoreThanUp ,

I hear you disagree with the decision made. If you feel you want to raise this further, you have every right to. You can have a look at our feedback and complaints policy here: https://www.sane.org/about-us/policies/feedback-and-complaints-policy

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[Realness]

Hi @heartathome , @DownMoreThanUp , @Appleblossom , @ENKELI , @tyme , @AlwaysMyself , @MissGremlin , @REDLINEZ750 ,

John 14

Jesus talking with His disciples:

• Don't let your heart be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in Me.
• In My Father's house are many rooms . . . I am going to prepare a place for you.
• I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
• The one who has seen Me has seen the Father.
• The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own. The Father Who lives in Me does His works.
• Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. Otherwise, believe because of the works themselves.
• Whatever you ask in My name, I will do it so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
• If you love Me, you will keep my commands.
• And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counsellor to be with you forever.
• He is the Spirit of Truth.
• I will not leave you as orphans; I am coming to you.
• If anyone loves Me, [they] will keep my word. My Father will love [them], and We will come to [them] and make our home with [them].
• I have spoken these words to you while I remain with you.
• But the Counsellor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.
• Peace I leave with you . . . Don't let your heart be troubled or fearful.
• I will not talk with you much longer, because the ruler of the world is coming. He has no power over Me.
• On the contrary, so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do as the Father commanded Me.

Jesus' words show how intimate the connection is between The Father, Jesus The Son and The Holy Spirit. The gift of the Holy Spirit was dependent on Jesus obeying the Father.

[tyme]

Thank you for sharing @Realness . That is so uplifting.

How has your day been?

[Realness]

Hi @tyme ,

Thanks for your encouragement.

I slept in big time this morning. Last night I watched an excellent documentary on YouTube so I went to sleep later than usual.

When finally out of bed I started the day by reading and sharing John 14. It took me to a lovely place. I'm still amazed at this opportunity to share what I'm reading.

Then I checked my emails to find an email from a long lost friend. Just deciding whether to reply now or pause for a little bit and let her words soak into me a bit first.

I can't feel it inside but it's meant to be a very hot day today.

How's your day going?