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Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Great idea for a discussion thread, @eth. This following is going to be a very long rave!

I too have Bipolar 1. Mostly I've been treated by psychiatrists over my life. But these days I have both a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and I find both very helpful. I've read many times that the combination of psychiatry and psychology is the most effective form of treatment for bipolar, among other conditions. For a couple of years, I also had a support worker, who was trained as a social worker, which was also very helpful too.

I've had lifelong sleep disorders of various kinds, a common feature of bipolar. I've struggled to achieve sleep hygiene for a long time. I'm probably doing better with this just at the moment than at most other times in the past. It's only taken me to the age of 56 to manage even a fragile handle on this, even though I know it's a keystone of managing bipolar well.

The only self-monitoring records I have ever found helpful are daily activity plans. They helped me get out of a state where I was doing almost nothing everyday for a long time. They have helped me develop better habits and routines and I no longer need to plan out my hours on paper and follow my written instructions to myself in the way I used to do. At the moment, I use only a little dates diary and write my appointments and activity plans for out of the flat in there. I still fall down and fail to follow through with these things at times. But I seem to be able to recover more quickly from depressive holes and get back into rhythm with some routine. I would return to detailed written plans if I felt I need to though.

I too get overstimulated and overwhelmed very easily. It means I need to have a fair bit of time to myself to process my experiences, take time out and settle myself down again into a semblance of balance. 

Meditation of various kinds has helped me in an ongoing way and I've been using the techniques I've learned for decades, though I've only done it in structured ways for shortish periods of time. Mostly I use the techniques 'ad hoc', as needed, and to help myself fall asleep at night. My main meditation activity is to focus on breath to help me calm myself, with occasional use of mantras, some of my own invention now.

SANE forum has been extremely helpful to me for a few years now.

I have a long time companion that I live with. I am independent and self-managing with my mental health and he is not highly involved. But I do ask him about what he is observing with me at various times, and he usually has helpful answers. Just because of the kind of person I am, I probably would not respond well to intervention from other people. I rely on my regular sessions with professional support people for that.

I have never had uncontrolled spending, though at high times I have some tendency to spend more than is needed or usual. I have been a bankrupt, but this was due to poverty, which I've lived with my whole life, and an extended period of time when I need to partly live on my credit card to survive (not to mention the bank's complete unwillingness to strike any kind of achievable payment plan for me when it was all coming to a head). It was only a small debt of about $5000, but it wreaked havoc and I was reminded of it in various real life ways over and over for a number of years. I refuse to have a credit card these days and now have no debt whatsoever.

Anger has been a problem for me in my life, best treated by anti-psychotic medication, which then gave me the opportunity to change my patterns of behaviour. But I live a life relatively free of external stressors now and I still worry that, under stress, this terrible and self-eroding way of being could return. As with my tendency to be overstimulated, I get stressed and destabilised by external factors very easily.

Being granted the disability pension around 2010 has given me the only financial security I've ever had in my life, and has made my life livable in a way it never was before. I've had about 50 jobs in my life, including the short freelance gigs, and have had breakdowns from almost all of them. These repeated breakdowns have become harder and harder to recover from each time. I still haven't really recovered from the last one, in 2008. The longest I've had a full time job was nine months when I was 17. Aside from that almost all my jobs have been temporary, casual or part-time. I resent the pressure put on people with lifelong mental and physical illnesses to work at jobs that are likely to further damage their health.

I wasn't diagnosed with bipolar until I was in my late 40s, even though my manic behaviours probably began at around age 16. I have read that 10-20 years in getting a proper diagnosis for bipolar is fairly common. I was initially diagnosed in my late 20s with clinical anxiety and depression, and medicated for that. This meant I spent decades of my life medicated only with anti-depressants, which triggered and maintained the biggest mania of my life, one that lasted for five years (with mixed features and rapid cycling as part of it). During that whole time the main feature of the mania was extreme sexual behaviour, another common feature of bipolar. 

Having said that, my most enduring problem over all this time has been with depression, which I've experience ever since I was a young child. Anti-depressants are an integral aspect of my treatment in an ongoing way. These days, of course, they are moderated by mood stabilisers. But without anti-depressants, I may not even be alive. Looking back on my relation to anti-depressants over time, I'd say it's better to be manic than dead.

I too have damaged relationships beyond repair with my mental illness. My marriage was broken due to it and my relation to my parents was very distorted. I abandoned them altogether for about seven years of my life without telling them where I'd gone, which was devastating for them. Very fortunately, we reconciled after that time and forgave each other for much damage between us all. 

Despite all this, I've never been hospitalised for my condition, and I will do my utmost to continue that freedom from stigma. I have a pretty good intellect and have managed to mostly seem very rational and 'talk the talk' when it counted, even when my inner world was in chaos and my behaviours extreme. 

I am very compliant with my medications. This is greatly helped by my psychiatrist always actively involving me in all decisions about them. I would go so far as to say we are equal partners in deciding what will happen with my medications. This empowers and motivates me in my self care, bolsters my confidence in myself as an independent human being, and generates and maintains a better sense of self esteem. As many of us with mental illness will be aware, having any kind of mental health diagnosis can be a devastating blow to self esteem and confidence. Most of us are excrutiatingly aware of the stigma attached to it by others. Anything that loved ones can do to minimise this and empower our self determination is highly desirable in my view.

Weight gain is one of the most common problems complaints about medications for bipolar, and one of the main reasons for people going off their meds and into big trouble again.  I have had trouble with weight gain too. I gained 35-40kgs over several years, going from a size 12 to a size 20. Exercise and diet is the mantra most often trotted out with this. But, with the mood instability and mental ill health that usually persists to some degree even with treatment, it is usually much more difficult for people with bipolar to enact these improvements in any sustained way. It's very demoralising also to find yourself failing to stabilise or lose weight despite what feel like great efforts and endless exhortations about it from others. That's how it's been for me anyway.

Earlier this year I worked out that, if I continued to gain weight at the same rate year after year, as I had been doing, that in ten years time I would weigh 170kgs. I discussed this with my psychiatrist and we decided to make some major changes to my meds, opting instead for ones with less of a weight gain profile. Consequently, for six months this year my mental health has been in an extended period of instability during the changeovers, including a two month period where I was so depressed I slept 18 hours a day. It's only over the past few weeks that I feel I've started to come good again. Fingers crossed things continue to improve. All of this highlights my opinion that, whenever possible, it's best to maintain a consistent mix of medications over the long term. If it's working fairly well, I'm mostly say, don't change it. Changing meds frequently generates further instability. Of course, sometimes changing meds is unavoidable or desirable for various reasons.

Bipolar is a complex condition, often emcompassing various other mental health issues under its umbrella term. I have suffered long term social anxiety (since childhood), general anxiety, mild paranoia and various other sub-conditions as part of my bipolar. The Black Dog Institute, which specialises in research of mood disorders, has online reading material about bipolar. It is stated there that it is the most inheritable of all mental illnesses, citing an 80% rate of genetic involvement. My experience also tells me that this condition is a physical brain disorder, not something that can be changed or improved with psychological therapy or self help strategies alone. Mood disorders run in my family.

These are my current thoughts on my own condition. As with everything, experiences change us and change our views. All of the above is simply my own personal perspective at this point in time.

Thank you if you've read this far! Wishing everyone the very best in their ongoing journey with mental illness, or caring for a loved one with it.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Thanks very much for sharing so openly @Mazarita.  I know the effort that goes into telling our story over again can be draining at times.  I really appreciate your contribution here.  Lots of love xx

Heading out now but will respond more in depth later probably.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Thanks, @eth. Yes, it's taken me a long time this morning to write that! But I also feel that it's great having the opportunity to do so, as it helps me clarify my own experiences and views. Hopefully it's useful to some others as well. Heart

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

@Mazarita  you write clearly and look at the many ways we work at managing our bipolar lives.  Thankyou.

An expression I used last night has really stuck with me today ..... "between memories and dreams (and delusions)" .....could be a book title.    I have had to tell my lifestory so many times in the course of my process to get to NDIS funding as well as in the type of therapy I'm doing with my psychologist.  And so lots of more detailed 'memories' have come to the surface.  Some are based in real life, others turn out to be either dreams or psychoses.   Another thing I find having family support has been helping is in clarifying memories/delusions/dreams and sorting what is fact and what is my confusion because of the states I've been in.  These days I have to concede at times and accept that I did not remember things as they seemed or in fact were to others.  But I know my perception of reality at such times is still a real part of who I am if that makes sense.

And then there's the guilt and shame that comes at times relating to the effect my behaviours had on others, especially my adult child.  That's a whole other story.

 

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

@eth, I did a lot of searching into memories over a long period with my first psychiatrist, who was unconventional in his approach. My sessions with him were usually an hour in duration and involved mostly talk therapy, with some medication. He incorporated Gestalt therapy and other techniques into his therapy with me. I hoped to free myself of the heavy depression I felt through exploring these matters.

My memories were mostly very dark and related almost exclusively to childhood traumas growing up as an only child in a family with a lot of domestic violence, gambling and alcohol addiction, as well as great stress and insecurity due to poverty. I was a neglected child, despite being very loved by both my parents. I also felt abandoned by my father many times over, as he came and went at different times throughout that time.

After years of delving into and reliving these things, I came to believe that it may actually have cemented the dark childhood memories and traumas further, though in some ways it was helpful to get them out rather than locked up inside. I no longer seek to explore my dark past to that extent, focussing more on the present and realistic hope for the future.

I've said elsewhere that the closest I've come to outright psychosis is in my serious anger issues at times past when I was verbally abusive over long periods of time towards loved ones, and was sometimes prone to screaming and head banging when my rage built up inside me to completely intolerable levels. As I also said, the initiation of anti-psychotic medication stopped this almost immediately and gave me the space to work at changing my perspectives and behaviours along those lines, through my own efforts. I have had almost none of those behaviours over several years now and my anti-psychotics were discontinued this year, with no sign of a return to those damaging ways. I'm not saying I'm cured of them for all time, but it is a great relief to me and my loved ones that they have not been present for a long time now.

What I haven't said before is that there was one aspect of my mental illness that went on for over a decade in my younger years, and which might be considered an outright psychosis. It is so shameful and painful to me that I can't describe it in detail, even in anonymity on the forum. But it was basically a belief I had about abuse I thought I had experienced, which I now believe never happened. This belief locked me into a victim mentality for a long time, which I came to see is a damaging thing in itself.

Shame and guilt have been big aspects of my experience over a lifetime with mental illness. My current psychologist has helped me a great deal with this, teaching me simple and effective techniques to forgive myself, and better move forward without so much self loathing.

What I also didn't mention in my earlier post in this thread is that I have had chronic physical illness throughout my life, mainly Crohns disease. Many people on the forum are aware of this, but for those who aren't, my earlier post may have seemed to give little indication of long term hope for those newly diagnosed with bipolar. 

My physical illness has been a very significant contributor to the level of disability I have experienced to this age I am now, 56. I wanted to mention this now, as those who have better physical health with their bipolar may have more optimistic outlooks over the long haul. I place a high priority now on taking care of my physical health too through regular visits to a trusted GP and specialist referrals when needed. I believe this is a very important aspect of taking care of mental health too.

After writing my earlier post, I also felt it would be positive to talk about one thing that has been a lifeline to me through mental illness: creativity. I have been actively engaged with creative pursuits since my teens and these have given me a great satisfaction and even some wider recognition for my efforts. They give me a sense of contributing to the world, despite serious disability in other ways. I would recommend creative activities to anyone as a positive way of helping ease the pain of mental illness.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

@Mazarita@eth@Shaz51@greenpea

Dear Mazarita, I have just finished reading your long posts and thanks so much for sharing. I feel like its a very insightful and brave post. Hope you feel good after sharing, I particularly like the fact that you have now decided to spend most of your time in the here and now of the present and not all those dark memories. I also feel like it’s great that you are not going to move forward as victim with no self loathing. I particularly liked you mentioning creativity at the end of your post as I found that quite liberating.

 

My own family bread a lot of guilt into me. My mum even blamed me for my son’s severe mental health illness by saying we always thought you were a bit schizo! I even got blamed for my brother being a violent alcoholic and it was my fault and I deserved to be violently assaulted by him! When it got too much to handle and I took out an AVO to protect my son, daughter and myself I got blamed for splitting up the family! My parents even though they are in their  late 70s still enable my brother by mothering him and giving him as much alcohol as he likes even though he’s an alcoholic. My aunty is bipolar or in those days they called it manic depressive. My father’s attitude is that she’s mad, so I’m positive he paints my son, his grandson with the same brush. He’s pretty damaged by experiences of his sister, my aunty, who used to receive shock therapy when she was psychotic before the benefits of antipsychotics were known. So because of this family history of bipolar, I also get blamed for causing this for my son because of course it came through my genes! Of course it’s not my fault, but I avoid my family for a range of reasons which have briefly introduced above.

 

I am very proud of my son because he has been very brave to face his demons at a very young age, live in the present moment like you Mazarita, and move forward to face the future which is bright. I am trying my best to support him until he can fend for himself. I have to do this alone for a range of reasons. I don’t want him to end up like the majority of my bitter family who are self prescribing alcohol to help them manage their mental health issues ...love to you all and keep truck’n 

PS Have been greatly enjoying the footy finals season as a sober vego! (That sounds pretty sad, but I need to be 100% in the present moment to continue to support my son)

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

It is different for me, and that's ok.  I don't think I 'choose to live life as a victim' ........ things happened that weren't my choice and I can't control complex PTSD and the way it impacts on bipolar 1 for me.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Hello

 

I'm struggling cognitively at the moment. I am low and experiencing, tiredness, lathergy and at times makes me feel ill physically. Do others get that!?! My head is not my friend it hurts like a bag pipe squeesed and making ear piecing noise or like the tv when it is going  black and white with no reception.

 

I hate being this unwell. Want it to pass. How long has the struggle been....who knows!! I'm frustrated and alone. No one really knows except the creator God who made me and knows every part of this journey.

 

I want to get on and live a functional life.

 

I have supports family friends and professional.

 

Why is it still so hard. I know it would be awesome to know there are others who understand this pain.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Hello @Georgie1 

It's taken me a while to respond on this thread because at the moment I *don't* feel like I'm managing Bipolar 1. I just wanted to let you know that I read your post and I'm in a similar place: 'why is it still so hard' really rings true for me atm.

Re: Managing Bipolar 1

Thanks @frog for your understanding. I thought you were fog which made me laugh. I have been unwell with short stints of being better for a long time. I work hard at managing bp and I get tired of it. I wonder if the medications are making it hard or if im experiencing symptoms of the illness. Who can tell. I just hang in as best I can. Even in better times I get anxious about the illness. I have recieved great professional help but it is limited to what they can do.

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