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Hi @Phoenix_Rising,

I'm sorry that you feel as though my inability to address the matter in depth today was a form of gaslighting or done intentionally. As I explained, it was out of my control and have tried to be really transparent with you about the situation. This is not to say I don't believe it has been a tough and painful wait for you. I do hear you.

I want to take the time to respond to you thoughtfully, and if I had responded today, it would have been done in haste. You deserve a well thought out and considered response. I know you have been super patient and trying really hard - so please keep on trying to do your best with sticking to emailing us your concerns.

I hope that the forums can provide you with some comfort tonight.

Nik

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Thanks @Former-Member. I'm SO confused. I so very very badly wish I could pour out the whole story here - but I've been told I'll be banned from Forum Land if I do. Shhhhhh don't tell, Phoenix_Rising!

To me, this part of the puzzle illustrates the difference between equality and equity. They AREN'T treating everybody equally and like you say, it's right that they shouldn't because we are all different. However, if you are going to deny something to one person that every other person is able to access, surely it makes sense to compensate for that in some other way. To me, that would be equitable. 

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Super super super SUPER big thank you for appearing @NikNik. But no, I don't believe that your inability to respond to me today was in any way intentional or gaslighting. It is the puzzle I just put to my peers in Forum Land that I feel is a form of gaslighting. I won't name the person involved here but I will shoot you an email now. 

The fact that you couldn't respond today was intensely distressing because I was told you would and thus I waited around all day, just focusing on staying calm, waiting for you. I did hear you when you said you were too busy. I feel despairing because now in order to address it tomorrow, I won't be going to my volunteering gig. 

I have emailed LOTS today NikNik and no one responded. And as I have mentioned here in Forum Land, I've been waiting a WHOLE WEEK for a response to an email I sent last Friday. I'm TRYING NikNik. I AM emailing, but so many of my emails go unanswered and unacknowledged. Smiley SadSmiley SadSmiley Sad

Can I please sleep in your nutella jar tonight???

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I don’t want to try to guess without knowing @Phoenix_Rising ..... 

It sounds to me like over there they are trying to work out what to do very carefully, because there is a scared and hurting turtle in the middle of this muddle ..... and they need to be careful about that .....

And the potential solutions you can see through talking it through .... maybe they can’t see things from the same perspective that you do at the moment ..... and I say “at the moment” because I believe in change and movement ...... but change and movement takes time ..... and any time I mention time you will be wanting to know how much time ..... and I don’t have that piece of the puzzle either .....

The pieces of the puzzle we have in our part of Forumland look like this .....

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.... and they don’t look like they fit together .... but you have more puzzle pieces, and so do the others involved .....

And all of this might sound like reframing to you .... whereas to me it all sounds like turning puzzle pieces over, trying to fit them together, recognising that pieces are missing, and sitting down to wait for the change of circumstances ..... or get up and start knocking on doors asking for more puzzle pieces .... asking for help to fit puzzle pieces together ..... asking for a new version of the puzzle and the chance to start again .... and it sounds to me like you have already been doing a lot of that anyway ....

The sciencey-problem-solvey side of my brain is pretty well moshed together with my carey-feeling-connecty side of my brain ..... and then there’s a whole slosh of arty-crafty spilled in all over the top of it .... so trying to sort things out this way is just what I do .... so if it is what is referred to as reframing .... well that’s a giant part of f&h-think and how I trabpnslate things to try to make more sense out of them.

Here’s a visual on that ....

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And what my “finding order in it” does for that .....

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.... but sometimes too, like my situation now, it’s still this ....

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Always plenty of room in the nutella jar (I do often wonder how clean it is though... so enter at your own risk)

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Hi @Phoenix_Rising

just want to let you know that I support you even though I can’t be on the forum at the moment.

i hope this situation can be resolved soon.

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Thank you to everyone who has ridden the waves with me this evening. I feel exhausted and so very very afraid. It has super helped though to know that the one piece of the puzzle I was able to share doesn't make sense to you guys either. This is total brain mushing stuff. Telling me they can't do something for me that they don't do for anyone else while at the same time imposing a ban on me that they don't do for anyone else is truly brain mushing stuff. My brain is so very very VERY broken. 

I am going to ride out the rest of this very dark and stormy night snuggled in @NikNik's giant nutella jar. 

Thank you so SO much for helping me to feel less alone in this bewildering muddle. A super special thank you to you @Former-Member because I know how hard it can be for you to be here even when it isn't this stormy, much less when it is!

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Ps. Here is another story I super like @OhanaSystem Smiley Happy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuNjPLP9J0 

 

 

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@Former-Member are you watching over the ocean tonight? Can you see @NikNik and me in the giant nutella jar?

Night Forum Land.

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You cannot be serious!!!!!! I had JUST settled. I had JUST settled into bed...and the email came through to say my post outlining the puzzle has been rejected!!!!!!!!!! What on Earth is going on here?????? I was told to reach out to my peers, so I did. I have been waiting a WHOLE WEEK to get an explanation for how it makes sense to say there can't be one rule for one and another one for others while at exactly the same time having a rule imposed on me that is not imposed on others. I've waited and waited and waited and got no response. So I posed the question here in Forum Land. 

I was TOLD today to keep reaching out to my peers. I've TRIED to reach out to the author of the puzzle. I've asked for an explanation. The email I sent has been ignored since last Friday. How can my post possibly be considered to breach the guideline: 

  • is obscene or offensive
  • is malicious, personally attacking or hostile
  • may incite hatred or be seen as discriminatory
  • could be seen to be serving yours or somebody else’s commercial interests
  • could be interpreted as professional advice such as legal, medical, or financial advice.

I don't name anybody! Indeed, it is so vague, @NikNik thought I was referring to her! 

I feel silenced and terrified. I can't get answers there, I can't talk about it here. I feel utterly utterly utterly terrified!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had JUST settled. For a few minutes I was calm. I feel so so so SO afraid!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 I want @NikNik. Scared scared scared scared. SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!