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At what point does self criticism, self hatred and harshness toward the self constitute bullying?

@HenryX @TAB @greenpea @Appleblossom

And others following @oceangirl @BlueBay @Shaz51
TAB
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prob a long time ago @MDT  lol think the key is how it is perceived by other party 

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Hey @Shaz51 @BlueBay @greenpea 

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There are so many factors that go into our personalities and our experiences. 

Being too strict or strident to the self can be very counterproductive.

https://www.lifehack.org/863533/self-critical 

You are a good sort.  Nobody is perfect,  Mate

 

 

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Hmm @Appleblossom @TAB

I just watched this https://youtu.be/8gxJCOkTYPQ

"Situational awareness first. Personal awareness second"

And reading that too Apple, makes me realise the importance of drawing a line between healthy self criticism and unhealthy sef criticism.

You know the other day when my friend in the US he got his dream job I was happy for him. But then I was sad for myself. But then I realsied that my life and circumstances are totally different. While there may be overlap in interest, we are two different people in 2 different countries in a world of ever increasing complexity. The most important thing I think came from him saying that he applied for thus job he got - 14 times. I said to him that there is a lesson in that.

I look at my own life and journey and see the changes that have taken place. I see the challenges I've overcome. I mean these are general points, I've never really sat down with the information in front of me and digested it all.

Maybe it is time to do it.

BlueBay
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For me it's how I am today 

I'm hating myself so much 

@MDT  sorry don't know what to say xxx

Shaz51
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@MDT 

every body`s life journey is totally different , they may have this or they may have that but we dont know what they are going through in their lives at this moment 

hello @BlueBay@Appleblossom@TAB@greenpea 

MDT
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Thats ok @BlueBay
Take care friend
HenryX
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Hello @MDT 

and others following this thread

 

In the following response, the positions, opinions and beliefs are my own and may, or may not be similar to those held by others. Neither are they offered, in any way, as professionally qualified observations. This post covers areas and issues that I have explored in my own life and may be challenging or triggering for some. @HenryX 

(Total words ~670)

 

To explore answers to the question asked by, @MDT on

"03 Oct 2021 09:57 AM

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"At what point does self criticism, self hatred and harshness, toward the self, constitute bullying?" and addressed to the following forum members:

"@HenryX @TAB @greenpea @Appleblossom @oceangirl @BlueBay @Shaz51"

 

I would first ask the question,

“A what point does criticism, hatred and harshness toward anyone constitute bullying?”

 

Criticism, to my way of thinking, could be viewed as bullying when it is inappropriately presented, or if there is no foundation, or reason offered for any such criticism and there is no benefit to be derived, from any such criticism, by the person, or others, within that person's life and field of activity.

 

Hatred, of any sort, I think, is like a malignant cancer and consequently, injures or destroys anything it touches. It is my opinion that there is no place for continued hatred or the feelings associated with it, even in the most extreme of circumstances, for a civilised, informed and educated person. However, there are occasions when we may, for a short period of time, feel something akin to hatred, when we experience or observe heinous crimes perpetrated against ourselves or others. These feelings may give the initial stimulation needed to commence our response and attempts to resolve the issues and practices about which we may have experienced any such extreme feelings. But continued hatred, or similar feelings, can cause a form of blindness to logic and reason. As such, they act as a barrier to possible resolution of the situation that may have precipitated those feelings. If such feelings are held, against oneself or others for a considerable time, then any such feelings should themselves be addressed and modified by logic and reason, possibly within a therapeutic environment.

 

Harshness towards ourselves and others, may be appropriate when reason, urgency and importance (gravity of the situation) dictates. However, if such harshness continues and progresses to become an habitually practised behaviour, it is my belief that the outcome can be similar to that caused by parasitic and malignant hatred.

 

It is my opinion, formed by both the experience and practice, in the past, of those three expressions within our active behaviours, towards ourself and, or others, that they can eventually progress to become all-consuming, parasitic and malignant behaviours.

 

Because the effect, of such expressions of behaviour, can have such devastating effects and consequences, it is important to seek out the reasons for continued application of such behaviour and treatment, particularly, in and toward ourselves. Such expressions of behaviour, practised and acted on toward ourselves, often overflow into our self-expression towards, and assessments and judgements, of others.

 

Your question, @MDT  really begs another question, not

“What is the reason for self-criticism, self-hatred and harshness, and when does it constitute bullying?”

That is because such a question assumes the validity of each of those three expressions of behaviour and any consequent outcomes.

 

The question that I believe needs to be asked, by me about me, is,

“What, in my development, has caused me to acquire and apply such unreasonable and unrealistic expressions of behaviour, in the way that I view myself and my own activities; and possibly, in similar fashion, the positions and behaviour of others?”

 

With My Concern and Best Wishes

@HenryX 

 

Edit:   ~5.00 pm 4 October 2021.  The question, to which this post is my response, I have added at the beginning of the post, since the answer, on its own, raises the question about the reason for the post.

Apologies for any confusion that may have arisen as a result of the absence of the question, or reference to the question in the initial post.

MDT
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@TAB @greenpea @Shaz51 @BlueBay @Former-Member @Arizona and others following along

Just trying my best to take it easy today. Got a few things on the list for today.
I am expecting to hear about a job interview this week - hopefully they get back to us either way. I really hate the waiting game.
Tbh, I don't think it'll be a success - the interview was very awkward as the questions were quite open ended. But as is my nature, I over analyse things. IT's just how I am. I have been doing my best to change that aspect and maybe turn it into a positive.

Dunno what's happening re: work this week as may be required to go in. But don't care - not fussed either way tbh
MDT
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My @Clawde as well friend