07-01-2022 06:24 PM - edited 07-01-2022 06:30 PM
07-01-2022 06:24 PM - edited 07-01-2022 06:30 PM
Hello @Former-Member , @Emelia8 , @Anastasia , @Mazarita , @Clawde , @Appleblossom , @greenpea , @Shaz51 , @Rosemary4 , @FiFi85 , @Faith-and-Hope , @Dimity , @jem80 , @Lise07 , @Eve7 , @eth and others visiting this thread
Positive News
While not stupendous or earth-shaking, it certainly appears to be the start of something good.
It is warm here and I am well. I say "warm" because it is 42℃ here at the present, about 3:30 PM, W.A. time. Recently, I have successfully reduced my weight by a few kg and, as a result am coping with the heat better, for which I am very thankful. Have not put the air-conditioner on today. Went for a 40 min, easy walk with the dog yesterday evening. That is something I have had difficulty even contemplating up to now, let alone actually doing, particularly in this weather. I plan to continue going for a walk each day, gradually building up the pace, before adding extra time.
The goal was primarily to improve my capacity to do more physical work and exercise. It was a circular argument, stay the same - no exercise, no exercise - stay the same. I had to address one before the other. While it is early days, I believe that I now have the determination and momentum to adhere to my program. By dropping the equivalent of a 20 litre drum of engine oil, which I am succeeding in accomplishing, there are likely to be a range of benefits, both physical and psychological. I can also look forward to the possibility of commencing and hopefully accomplishing some of the things that have been rattling around in my mind for quite a while. Of course the first project will be to sort, organise, keep and dispose. With current progress, I believe that I can look forward to forward movement and an improved capacity to deal with some of the negatives that I still face, to which I have referred recently.
The sense of achieving a goal, that is likely to open up further possibilities, is satisfying and rewarding.
Look forward to providing some positive updates as I progress.
With Best Wishes
07-01-2022 06:50 PM
07-01-2022 06:50 PM
So happy for your recent successes @HenryX . Your progress with your counsellor and now with your health and activity are good news indeed. I trust Kirra is also enjoying your walks.
I agree that there can be a "vicious circle" with outlook, weight and inactivity, but I believe we can also cross a threshold where benefits predominate and things get easier. I am yet to make that step but hope to achieve it with patience and perseverance.
42 degrees is very hot. I hope your nights are cool enough for recovery between the days' heat. It's good you feel you are more resilient. It's very encouraging for "the rest of us".
Keep well @HenryX
Dimity
07-01-2022 06:50 PM
07-01-2022 06:50 PM
Sounds like good progress is being made there @HenryX 😄👍
All very positive, and I'm happy for you. Please keep posting about your progress. We all love to hear good stories. It gives us some inspiration to do better ourselves.
Emelia 💓
07-01-2022 07:10 PM - edited 07-01-2022 07:11 PM
07-01-2022 07:10 PM - edited 07-01-2022 07:11 PM
Cooee @Dimity @Former-Member @Former-Member
Fantastic news and inspiring. @HenryX as @Emelia8 said. (sorry edited)
I have kept active and outdoors, but not worried too much about how much exercise or weight etc.etc ... that is too much like the wrong pressure for me ... and likely just tie me up in knots.... I managed to quite smoking the way @Dimity mentioned when I could feel the health benefits outweigh the bad.
Here is to a healthier 2022 for all ..
07-01-2022 10:24 PM
07-01-2022 10:24 PM
Well done @HenryX thank you for sharing your good news! It is definitely nice to hear good news ☺️ 🎉✔️🙏💕
Hello all 👋
16-01-2022 04:27 PM - edited 16-01-2022 05:08 PM
16-01-2022 04:27 PM - edited 16-01-2022 05:08 PM
Hello to @Anastasia , @Emelia8 , @Appleblossom , @Dimity , @Former-Member , @Oaktree , @wongli
and others visiting this thread
The following part of my 'story' is transferred from another thread. It is really a continuation of my story on the "Hangar" thread, which I hope may be encouraging for some and possibly a stimulus for others. It is mainly structured around what I perceive to be the benefits of medication and counselling, but also has a positive completion in some ways and continuing projection in others.
"Hello @wongli ,
and other members visiting this thread
{Please do not be put off by the length of this post which has a count of ~820 words}
Welcome to the forum @wongli and I do hope that you will find discussion and suggestions that will assist you in improving your situation.
You may already be aware that the presenting aspects, that you describe, are often considered as symptoms associated with depression.
We often go to a psychologist in the hope that they have a 'magic formula' for fixing us up. Apparently, it does not work that way. The psychologist or counsellor attempts, in conjunction with us as the client, to tease out the issues that are underlying our reactions, symptoms, thoughts, beliefs and concerns. The psychologist/counsellor can only be as effective as the client allows or permits them to be. They can only work with as much, or as little information and material, as is provided by us as clients.
Unfortunately, it is often the client's own barriers to disclosure and their own capacity, or otherwise, to provide the material required with which to work, that limits the capacity of the psychologist/counsellor. If we ask a gardener to prepare a garden on rocky ground, yet are unprepared or unwilling to see the need for providing soil, do we blame the gardener and say that they have failed?
My own recent experience with a counsellor has been very positive, as some others, previously, have also been. However, I have had some less than favourable experiences also. The lady, with whom I am now speaking, operates from a social work perspective and training, with some elements of psychology taken during training. She also has considerable experience in other service provision roles. I admit that I have been fortunate, from my first contact with her, that we have established a good rapport and working relationship. The lady, who is some years younger than I, holds differing views on some subjects, however, we acknowledge each others right to hold our respective views and beliefs, while still respecting the person. I am older and a male at 70+ years of age. Yes there have been challenges in our relationship, but those have lead to a better understanding of each other, and therefore, our respective contributions. And, I believe, that even in a formal counselling environment, it is important that a mutual understanding of perspectives and values be established and maintained. My thoughts are that the development of such a relationship applies particularly to longer term relationships and interactions. At this stage, I have had about 18 appointments. Again, for various reasons, I have been fortunate. But we have both had to work toward the main objective, in which I can see, during that time, "quite a few hurdles crossed and goals having been kicked".
Certainly, if a good working relationship between the psychologist/counsellor cannot be established and maintained, it would be best to attempt to find someone with whom such a relationship can be established.
With regard to medication, I was diagnosed as having clinical depression more than 20 years ago. The first medication that I was prescribed actually did make me feel worse and that had to be discontinued. The next type of medication was from another group or category and, to my way of thinking, has been successful. That second medication has assisted me through some pretty torrid times and also allowed me to maintain stability when I most needed and desired it. That time was when my mother stayed with me for nearly 10 years. A time that I refer to with special feeling as a time of pleasure for us both and a privilege for me. Mum passed away about 2 1/2 years ago.
Those were hurdles crossed. The goals kicked include a recent successful and significant reduction in the medication that I have been taking for depression, as well as large reductions in pain relief medications. Because of the severity of the depression that I experienced, it had been suggested that I may require to take the anti-depressant medication for the rest of my life. It seems, now, that I may not have to, which is one of the goals toward which I reach.
There may have been a range of factors that have lead to the progress that I have made. One of those factors, I believe, has been the successful interaction between the counsellor and me in our effort to address my concerns and assist me in achieving my goals. Another factor, I likewise believe, has been the successful matching of an appropriate medication for the particular issues and depression that I faced more than 20 years ago.
While all this sounds like a lot of my story, it is the only way that I can provide information that I hope may be helpful for you and possibly others, in a non-directive manner and style.
I would most certainly be pleased to discuss, with you, any development of details or ideas that you may have, while respecting the
Guidelines & Info {this link will take you directly to that information}"
With My Best Wishes
16-01-2022 04:33 PM
16-01-2022 04:33 PM
Thankyou for sharing @HenryX
16-01-2022 08:53 PM
16-01-2022 08:53 PM
You've done well @HenryX . Internal motivation is a great thing. I wrote a long reply but it evaporated. I hope my inert mind body and spirit find their invigorating spark soon. Then perhaps I can be aware alert and articulate in therapy.
Best wishes
Dimity
16-01-2022 09:18 PM - edited 18-01-2022 12:27 AM
16-01-2022 09:18 PM - edited 18-01-2022 12:27 AM
Hello @Dimity , @Former-Member , @Clawde , @Anastasia , @Appleblossom , @Emelia8 , @Oaktree , @greenpea , @Eve7 , @Lilly6 , @Molly22 , @Rosemary4 , @Former-Member , @Faith-and-Hope , @jem80 , @Lise07 , @Herewegoround , @Former-Member ,
and other visitors who are also invited to join the thread
Thank you so much for your wishes and affirmation, @Dimity , @Former-Member , @Anastasia , @Emelia8 and @Appleblossom with your various comments and observations. And thank you also, @Dimity for remembering Kirra in your reply, on the 7th January.
Even in a process of recovery and personal improvement, we can occasionally find things slipping.
Oddly enough, one reflection that I have had is, that as I progress, there is an awareness that the bottom is becoming further and further away. Oh! What If I slip? It is such a long way down! It means that tenacity and resolve have to be strengthened in order to reach the goals. However, when I have taken a misstep, I have had to avoid being disheartened and losing my grip, not only on the wall, but my objective as well.
It is possibly part of the reason for which I and others have been cautious and even afraid of attempting the climb.
Oh that I hope to retain these ideas and philosophical perspectives in order to proceed on my preferred path.
With My Very Best Wishes to You All
16-01-2022 09:27 PM
16-01-2022 09:27 PM
@HenryX don't fear forgetting uour insights. I think the act of writing may well reinforce our understandings and move them to another part of our memory. In addition to giving them physical form on paper or retrievable bytes.
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