23-01-2022 03:14 AM
23-01-2022 03:14 AM
yeah , am a bit embarrassed when really bit sensitive.. so things how they are re house ok, people coming and going to fix Bathroom lol @Dimity
23-01-2022 03:23 AM
23-01-2022 03:23 AM
Yes well I'm a bit embarrassed too @TAB as I've let things go. Didn't notice the cobwebs til the sparkie was here to fix the light... LOL
I'll try to sleep now. Good night. Take care
23-01-2022 03:26 AM
23-01-2022 03:26 AM
..same re bathroom here @Dimity as in 'pet' spider owns window etc etc
23-01-2022 04:33 PM - edited 23-01-2022 04:48 PM
23-01-2022 04:33 PM - edited 23-01-2022 04:48 PM
Hi @Dimity and @HenryX and others in this thread 🙋
I've been struggling with the need to clean up my surroundings for a while now.
It's at the point that everything seems way out of control and every action, however small, is an effort.
Feeling useless, hopeless, overwhelmed.
Living in a cramped, messy, dusty, dirty caravan with a shipping container full of mixed belongings I can't see myself ever getting to.
Outside overgrown and wild. Haven't been into the "garden" in months. Saw a snake on my last visit to the toilet shed.
Can't see a way forward.
Compounded by the fact that I live Off Grid so no access to council rubbish collection (or water, power, road maintenance etc, internet access via mobile phone only).
I just want to disappear.
Sorry if this is not the appropriate place to post this. I just needed to share to alleviate my anxiety.
Many thanks,
RedHorse 🌹🐴
Edited to add:
After reading through some earlier posts on this thread I realised that I need to set some goals (no matter how unmotivated I feel) if I am going to move forward as others seem to be doing.
I guess self care is a related aspect I could tackle.
23-01-2022 05:33 PM
23-01-2022 05:33 PM
Hello @RedHorse it's nice to see you. I'm so glad you've got in touch. My situation is suburban but I can identify with all of your feelings. I often feel useless hopeless and overwhelmed but the times I don't see my situation are probably objectively worse.
Living off grid could be both challenging and glorious. Have you been there long? Do you have four legged companions?
Yes I set goals and write lists from time to time. I struggle and fail but days or weeks later I return to the lists and set goals again. Yesterday I dusted, today I swept, and I see there's another cupboard I can clear. Your caravan might restrict you to essentials in your living space so that might be where to start. Unpacking your shipping container might be too hard unless you have a transitional space.
I've set up the free Daylio app on my phone so I have visual reminders of things I can do. Tackling my outdoors as well as inside. Daylio is also a mood tracker so I can see associations with particular activities. Being on the forums helps too.
Sorry if my suggestions feel intrusive. I've been struggling with depression and anxiety for a while and these are just things I'm trying.
I'd love to hear what goals you decide on and how things go for you.
23-01-2022 05:40 PM
23-01-2022 05:40 PM
Hi @RedHorse I spent 3 years in grotty old site caravan years ago, was only going to be temporary but just stayed and stayed.maybe do one thing at time like stove top , or sweep floor eg. it does make you feel better. I live in a 2 br house, and have filled it with clutter, I rarelymow the lawns or sweep floors, but I do dishes and benchtops and stove top and occasionally I pick stuff up, clear the floors and vacuum lol
23-01-2022 06:06 PM - edited 23-01-2022 06:28 PM
23-01-2022 06:06 PM - edited 23-01-2022 06:28 PM
Hello @RedHorse
You and me both and others too. And, while I cannot speak for @Dimity , I believe that he may probably say much the same.
Alright, our specific circumstances may not all be the same, but a lot of the feelings that we experience as a result of our circumstances are the same or very similar. It is really in the process of expressing and addressing those feelings, that we can help and assist each other here on the forum and in this thread in particular.
@Dimity and others are aware, from what I have discussed over the past 8+ months, that I have made significant progress in my physical capacity and psychological health. Coming from a long way back, with quite a long way to go.
My progress has been as a result of a number of factors. Firstly, seeking and gaining the support of a counsellor with whom I have been able to work constructively for my benefit. I believe, that it is, in part, because we talk with each other, not to each other.
Another factor has been my interaction on the forums. A lot of communication and correspondence has been in the form of positive affirmation by and from many other members. As well as that, I have endeavoured to contribute to conversations with others and offer suggestions and support through the forum. That interaction has given me a feeling of worthwhile contribution that has been mutual and reciprocal for me, as I hope and believe, has also been the case for others, in like fashion.
I have started a couple of threads. One is a general discussion thread, called
“Henry's Landing Strip and Hangar”,
the other called
“Food and Beverage Choices for Improved Physical and Psychological Health.”
Both of these threads have helped me 'get out of myself'. The first is unashamedly, a dreaming thread, though it also provides the foundation for some serious conversations and discussions. The second, is a more practical approach to day to day nutrition. At present, I am aiming at personal reduction for health {got to be cautious about terminology; see Guidelines & Info}, so many of the observations on the Choices thread are not applicable for me at present, but give me options to which I can look forward.
Areas that I have not yet made as much progress as I would like, are with regard to my physical living space and administrative matters. Your description of your living space is, in many ways, similar to my own. Though I presently live in a house, it would probably best be described as ramshackle and tumbledown. “A little crooked man in a little crooked house …..” My physical space as you describe,
“seems way out of control and every action, however small, is an effort.”
and seems to have so little effect, as to appear not worthwhile
“Outside overgrown and wild. Haven't been into the "garden" in months.”
and I am constantly resisting the feelings of being,
“(Feeling) useless, hopeless, overwhelmed.”
I try to avoid giving those feelings too much attention, because I am aware that they are swift to take advantage of any attention that I give them. However, I never deny myself the opportunity of feeling good, even if it means that I have to ignore everything else. This is because I believe that it is only by practising feeling good, as much and as often as I can, that I will be able to progress, even by small steps at a time. I know that, even as little as I do, it is only by doing it that will allow me to move toward and reach any goal.
I am 70+, so am definitely conscious of wanting to leave particular items for specific people and as little as possible to tidy up for anyone else.
No offence taken, no apology required.
This is the right place to post what you have described and it is very appropriate for you too have done so. I believe that it is the reason, at least in part, for @Dimity having set up this valuable thread.
With Best Wishes
23-01-2022 07:52 PM
23-01-2022 07:52 PM
Hi @RedHorse, i'm glad you shared here. As you can see a lot of us can relate to the feeling of overwhelm and anxiety when it comes to keeping up with cleaning. You're already on the right track with the goal setting! Being robotic about it can help but that fatigue and lack of motivation can be so overpowering sometimes, right. I wanted to share, my psychologist helped me to see cleaning and chores as 'acts of love' towards myself. I found reframing my perspective this way gave me some motivation to begin.
Good luck! Take it slow & celebrate those small achievements.
Here with you,
Sphinxly 🙂
23-01-2022 07:57 PM
23-01-2022 08:07 PM
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