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Re: Mindfulness Meditation

leaves on a stream my man

cant follow them downstream

cant stop them from flowing either

just gotta pull up a chair and watch them pass

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Yes! @Silenus, it is something that I do regularly. Using mindfulness meditation has helped me cope with my chronic pain condition without opiate meds. It also has helped me straighten out some of my 'illogical' thoughts.

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Hi @GothMum 🙂

That's great to hear that Mindfulness is helping. Chronic pain can be very exhausting and difficult to live with. Opiates can help with the pain, but they can be a struggle to manage properly, and the side effects can be irksome to say the least...

Do you have different ways of meditating?

To me, it can be as simple as pruning a bush - you look and listen to what the bush is telling you, instead of just cutting loose without regard...

Hugs and happy vibes beaming to you... 🙂
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My T told me about an app called 1 Giant Mind. I'm not completley sure if it's mindfulnessness - it seems a little different to other mindfulness meditations I've tried but it is a meditation method. The first couple of times I did it were fine but then it started to make me seriously anxious.... to the point where I've stopped using it. Is this a normal part of mindfulness/meditation?

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Hi @Former-Member 🙂

My experience of Mindfulness and general meditation has been that it helps to ease my anxiety and all of those heightened emotions...

To me, it's about embracing a calm acceptance of the world, and observing and experiencing it both gently and deeply...

Huge hugs to you, and gentle happy vibes beaming your way...
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Hi @Former-Member

I can understand the issues with meditation. It took me many approaches to find something that works for me (headspace app). I used to get flashbacks or extreme feelings, indescribably. I stopped and started again and again. I did a Raja Yoga course and would often just break out in silent tears, with no direct memory. It was a difficult path. I still keep sessions short, 20min max but often only 10min or a mindful walk. I've been practicing with headspace for about 6 months now and it is starting to help me.

Take a break, take a rest, try something different, there is so much mindfulness or meditation out there - even tai chi or yoga will get you centred.

I am still at the beginning of my own journey but I am confident that it will be worth it more and more every day.

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@Former-Member brings up a very good point about meditation that may explain your experiences @Former-Member

For peeps like us who have racing thoughts, anxiety, over-thinking and all of that fun, the sudden silence of meditation can be really jarring...

It's like being put into a sensory deprivation tank to float, and all of a sudden our senses, which are used to extreme over stimulation, fire randomly and lead to a near-psychotic state of consciousness in the extreme absence of stimulation...

I've experienced that. It's weird, and takes a while to understand and get past...

Hugs and happy vibes beaming everyone's way... 🙂
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@Silenus

What is a "near psychotic state of mind"? And how can you prevent from getting it?

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Hi @Former-Member 🙂

A near-psychotic state of consciousness is just a bunch of words at the end of the day... hahaha... and perhaps not very descriptive ones at that...

I guess it's me trying to describe that "floating" state of your mind where you are not really connected as strongly with the reality around you as you normally are (or would like to be). Part of that is a state known as dissociation, which is that whole losing touch with reality or with your own concept of self. I get that during my depressions quite a bit...

Here's what the font of all knowledge (hahaha...) Wikipedia has to say about dissociation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_%28psychology%29

Have you ever been in a really dark room? I mean pitch black to the point where you can't tell visually whether your eyes are open or closed. Sometimes, you get these little bright points of light appearing in your vision. Well, at least that's what happens to me. As far as I can tell, this is random firing of nerves or whatever, resulting from the lack of stimulation.

For me, especially when I was first starting my journey with Mindfulness and meditation, the sudden focussing of my senses on a particular thing was quite a shock. I had always been a natural observer in my life - I love to people watch or watch nature (ants scurrying, flickering flames, crashing waves, and so forth). But really focussing your full attention upon something, that was different. The thing you are focussing on can become almost "too real"... it's difficult to explain...

We are so used to flicking our senses across something briefly. Our attention spans have been getting shorter and shorter. Did you know that the average attention span of a goldfish is 9 seconds. You know, that whole "Oh look, a rock!" Swim swim swim in a circle back to the same rock. "Oh look, a rock!"...

Well, human beings have been experiencing shorter and shorter attention spans since the "mobile revolution" and the quick and superficial entertainment that the Internet provides. Our attention span has dropped from 12 seconds to 8 seconds since the year 2000...

We can hold our focus for one second less than a goldfish can...

That is, to me, a terrible thing. We should be working to improve our attention span, our focus. For me, meditation is a big part of that...

You ask how you can prevent from getting that near-psychotic state of consciousness. I don't think we can prevent it. I think rather that it is a normal state of consciousness when we really focus on something, and it is natural. The fact that we are not used to experiencing it is the thing that throws us. When we explore that state and come to understand it better, then it's not a matter of preventing it, but of accepting it...

Hugs and happy vibes beaming your way... I have a vague feeling I was talking out of my posterior for most of what I just wrote... I don't know if any of it makes any sense at all...

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Hi @Former-Member, yeah I can really relate to that. For the first 10 minutes it's relaxing and then it becomes anything but. I saw my T today and  told her what had happened and she said to just stop when I feel the anxiety is coming. I'll try the headspace app you mentioned though because I'd like to be able to do this. 

@Silenus it probably is related to dissociation for me. They say I have DID which apparently makes me a queen of dissociation.