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Re: Living with Ourselves

hi @Sophia1 gosh that must have been a real shock, yes water and tiles do not mix, the last fall mum had she slipped on wet tin and hit her head on the bin, she got a black eye and a few scratches and bruises, the doctors xrayed her face, neck and hip, she was very lucky, noting broken. 

 

she does not have a medical alert unit, but i am home all the time and we check on each other throughout the day. she has type 2 diabeties, so i think that is where the ballance thing comes from. low or high blood sugar. 

 

im so sorry to hear you have one son missing and one son in the MHU, it must be so distressing for you. gosh life can be and is so so hard. 

 

im ok talking about all this, and i don't mind anyone reading what i write. so please don't worry too much about our discussions. 

 

my partners daughter has called 3 times in 2 weeks. so she is at least in contact sometimes. yes, i hate drug dealers so much, they always prey on the vulnerable, im so glad my partner does not live in my town, it is number 1 in the state for drug use. 

 

i do believe you are right, i think my partners daughter is self medicating with drugs and alcohol, im so worried someone will take advantage of her when she is under the influence. i know what men are like and what animals they can be. i really hope she can stay safe. 

 

i really hope you can fully recover from your injuries. please be careful, you are an amazing person and friend. 

 

hugs

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Hello @Jacques 

 

Today is the earliest that I have had the time let alone the energy to reply.

I tell you this to reinforce my wanting to support you when I can.

This I know already, you are so very understanding and show compassion around.

 

I think that I might have confused you somewhere when writing about younger adult child. I cannot even remember where.

Person is not in a MHU; is struggling with bottled up emotions from when younger.

 

Older adult child was in acute mental health ward that just further fuelled long list of trauma. Now is missing.

I am now receiving text messages again that are concerning re current state of mind.

 

Your mum certainly was fortunate in not fracturing or breaking any bones. The fall, one of several you mentioned,  would still have affected her sense of wellbeing.

 

You are a beautiful son, one I know she is so very proud of as you look out for her in so many ways.

 

The caring role can be very tiring and draining without us being aware until something happens to us.

You also are caring for your girlfriend and family.

This is a load for you @Jacques .

The fact that you keep yourself so busy with projects around your home and garden is a great way of looking after you.

You also have your bike restoration which is a passion.

I know that you do so much else.

You are a very balanced person even though you might not feel that way.

 

I definitely understand your concerns re daughter's safety as she attempts to find her way through what she is struggling with.

This is a natural response from loved ones and very understandable from your own trauma.

Very hard for you. You are doing everything that you can.

 

We of course realise that self medicating with drugs and or alcohol only serves to further add confusion and exacerbate what she is running from. She might have an idea but be too frightened of what she is feeling and struggling working it out.

She clearly wants to do it her way for whatever her reasons are.

 

This might change as she is also at an age where she needs to be independent and move away from mum.

She might be angry about Dad not being in the picture.

I remember that you wrote that you wish you could do more.

You can't dear Jacques.

If she has reached an age where she is missing dad, only dad will do.

 

You can be there for her in the future though when she is ready.

 

She might only need a few weeks away from home and realise that what she has is far better than where she currently is.

 

Sadly she has to come to the realisation of this herself. Perhaps by accepting help or being hospitalised. Perhaps self realisation.

 

The fact that she is ringing several times a week even if it is for money is a good sign as weird as that sounds.

She is keeping open the connection and communication on her terms.

She is not letting go she is still hanging on to family.

 

This will help her family somewhat to be able to hear her voice.

Her mum can still remain firm on how she is willing to help. Offering purchasing food, essentials for her, avoiding giving money.

Setting these boundaries will not push her away in the long run. She will learn that she cannot use mum as a neverending bank account. She might not like it of course. Mum can also let her know that she will not listen to abuse as well. Most importantly that she still loves her as much as she wants her home.

 

You probably all know everything that I have written already.

Sometimes it helps to be reminded when we are overloaded with the grief and reality.

 

I have been on the journey of experiencing my adult child fleeing from state to state for so many years.

My accident was the end result of burning out as a carer. I felt the sensation of giving in just before I hit the floor.

I have recently spent hours examining how I can actually look after myself.

 

The realisation of who is actually really looking after me and who can look after me best popping into my mind randomly.

 

Why not? I spend so much time thinking through things of course my mind will come up with answers when I least expect it.

I have not really allowed anyone to look after me emotionally for some time.

I am so busy looking after everyone else.

 

How does this compute with your girlfriend, self, family?

 

Everyone has their own choice in life, even when unwell.

Everyone can change paths if they want to accept help and or look at their life from a different perspective.

When they self medicate or become too unwell, that choice might have to be taken away from them, only temporarily as they need assistance from the people specialised in those areas.

We have no control over the specialists available etc.

We also can learn that our loved ones have to learn about life from their own choices and outcomes the same as we do.

Ongoing and I know you are aware of that.

 

Coming to this realisation as a parent is one of the hardest things we have to face as our part in helping them.

 

 

I, me, self am the only one who can truly look after me at the end of the day.

 

I hope that something I have shared helps somehow.

 

Remember you do so much for many.

 

Thank you for continuing to be in my life when I am on the forums.

 

I always remember you telling me quite some time ago that you learnt the hard way not to spread yourself out too far on the forums.

I have always remembered that and when I get impacted I come back here.

Thank you ❤

 

Sophia1

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Hi @Sophia1 hugs my friend, sounds like you are such a kind and caring lady and maybe sometimes just push yourself a little too hard. i know what it is like not wanting to say no to others we just add extra work to an already overloaded life. it is what we do, it is why we care. 

 

i do hope you can find ways to care for yourself and allow a little control to go so you can let others into your life to help you like you help so many others. it is difficult especially when one is so independant. i found with my dad when i was caring for him he was so independant and went from bing really fit to being incapacitated in the space of 12 months with motor neuron, it was a huge change in his life and he had to learn to accept help and to trust me. i stepped up to look after him and over time he became to trust me and allow me some control. 

 

thank you for your amazing advice as always you are a fountain of knowledge. i think you are right, she is a teenager pissed off with the world and wants her dad. i know it is her choice, i can just see what is comming and i am scared for her. i don't want her to experiance what i have. i hope in time she can see her mum is doing her best and loves her very much. 

 

children sometimes can say such hurtful things. her daughter is being so cruel to my partner. 

 

i hope you are doing well this week and you are resting up.

 

the bmx bike and motor bike are on hold for the moment. i will post photos when i can.

 

hugs my friend, sorry for the late reply.

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Beautiful @Jacques 

So much truth

You have spent your whole life caring and protecting yourself and loved ones

 

I need to reply when I am not so tired

2 separate trips on Friday and today medical to city

so hard when isolate so often

going oiutside a bit more and walk occassionally

still draining and overwhelmng

 

exercise physiologist coming again tomorrow

 

take care of you as well as others

speak soon hugs

ps cruel words they inevitably say sorry.. most do

their inner rage project at those they feel safe with. She loves her mum

still hurtful

big hugs

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Hello @Jacques 

 

You know me quite well now..

independent the majority of my life..

always looking after others

taken advantage of

disliked by cliquey people and backstabbed

so trust takes time

I do not tolerate gameplayers..

Hard to ask for help when consider above list

..you help me intuitively

you are a very genuine person who cares about others

very wise

 

I was not aware that you had also experienced the huge loss with your dad on top of everything else.  You were there for your dad caring for him at the same time dealing with losing him. You have cared for your mum as well and now care for your partner supporting her with her daughters. Your aunt is also unwell. 

 

That is a huge load on top of your trauma when you were younger. 

 

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@Jacques 
I wrote far more and lost it

I am very tired

walked a fair bit again

not used to it yet

taking me a while

i will get my fitness back

 

thank you for being such a good friend

 

big hugs for you all

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Hello @Oaktree and @tonys 

 

I have invited you over here to try and work something out that is confusing me.

I am also wondering if it is part of why you might be feeling so vulnerable also at the moment

@Oaktree 

 

I have noticed in several places that you have written that you took time out because someone or something hurt you.

You have also said in a thread where you asked me to help you that it happened on my thread.

I know that you mean Virtual writing thread.

 

I am confused because you apologised to me for hurting me and letting me know that you were not in a good place at the time.

I had not felt upset by you back then but recognised that you needed  space and you were having support from Henry X which was great.

 

So now I am left thinking is it me who upset you because on introduction thread you let me know that you  are sensitive too.

I already had worked that out but did not know how to respond in case you felt more upset.

 

I am a person who tries to talk things out with people and find out what I have said or done if I have at all to be able to come to a resolution.

I now think it would be best for us moving forward for you to tell me openly if I have upset you at some stage, some time, whenever.

I think that will also help you @Oaktree 

I certainly will not judge you, more admire you for opening up.

I  invited @tonys so that you feel safe and not vulnerable.

 

Are you able to let me know what is happening?

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Thank you @tonys 

I felt safe in asking you to help @Oaktree sensing that you would understand I hope to help Meggle feel more at ease.

Your presence will help with that as I feel that Meggle is more comfortable with you.

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Hey @Sophia1    No its not you at all ..   megs loves you far as i know..

 

It was another fella ,    cant say the name but your a good detective..  

 

We are all still a tight unit mate   Think megs could use a ladies ear  tonys

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@tonysyes I know the other male and saw the conversation.

 

She mentioned me though and I just wanted to clarify that she is okay with me otherwise I will stay away from introduction as is her thread and her special town