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Bit by bit @Former-Member although sometimes when you're on a roll, it's amazing what can be accomplished.
Start off with something easy - maybe not your girl's things. The kitchen is a good place I reckon.
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Dear tawny @Former-Member I was tingling all over reading about you sorting through your girl's pencils. Dissociation is not really about what is normal or not. It is simply a defence against pain. It is normal to want to reduce pain. When I was in church one of the very educated and caring ladies kept making comments like "being besides oneself" to normalise it. Everybody goes through it to some degree. Its being aware and conscious that matters. Yes it is a grief thing too.
But I am a person who dissociates a lot so of course will justify it.
I think it is a good idea to start a Spring thread. There are no rules. DO what you need to do. I think we need to trust our instincts a bit as well as question and reflect.
Lol love your long memo pic. I let out a super long posts too.
I dont know that having someone "help" would make it easier. When I reflect I have found it easier to do it alone, but share here, or share about the sorting at church. Its just that if they dont know you well they may come up with all sorts of distracting non relevant ideas. Not sure what you should do, just giving a few of my ideas for what its worth ...
I have thought which is more like @soul post. SOmetime if I have to face a mess I go through it like a whirlwind. I wait, gear up for the task and go go go.
You do need to sort a bit. Choose 4-6 absolutely "must keep" things. Then, without looking too closely go through the rest, quickly. Dont think or feel too much as it is a job. You probably have los of photos too for memories.
When we do the mood charts they suggest we dont think too hard about it but just go through it.
That said, I am still hanging on to a few odds. I may sell up too and that will necessitate a closer sorting.
Thinking of you lots, HUGZ
Apple
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Hi @soul, Bit by bit is all I can manage. I'll just be flat out this week tidying, packing, clering the inside for Inspections. definitely gonna leave my girl's things 'till last now
@Faith-and-Hope, hello, a good idea to fill up a bag for charity and put it directlyí in the car. I do have x4 heavy bags by the front door atm.
Nothing wrong with baby baby steps lol
Be kind to yourself.
Hi @Appleblossom, thanks for your wonderful reply. I know you understand and glad you're here. "Dissociation being a 'defence' against pain" makes sense.
¶ i often wonder if "being besides oneself" described in every day life, is it the same as the degree of dissociation (numb, detached, loss of time) I get. Just trying to understand it.
¶You said "Its Being aware and conscious that matters" What do you mean in this context? I didnt remember how I came to be sorting the pencils or where my kind was before I found myself feeling them for my girl. So, yes, I'm aware of bits in retrospect. but how could I know if I'm NOT aware of something? ? Do you think the description I gave, that I was / am aware and conscious? (hope so lol, at least a bit anyway)
¶I'm wondering Apple, can you give me an example of times you found yourself dissociating? Does my experience sound similar?
¶I have started a Spring thread called "Spring-Clean..." if you wanna pop over there some time.
¶I do like that you "trust your instincts" i probably do need to 'reflect' more. .
¶I think you're right about not having someone here who I'm not close to. It is easier to reflect & make decisiins when alone. It is helping to share here, wouldn't be able to at church really, not in a meaningful way.
¶Appleblossom, your thoughts / ideas are of significant worth / value to me, thank you.
¶I wish I could go through things "like a whirlwind, gear up for the task and go go go" I'm struggling physically with it all. Even now laying in bed I have shooting pains up my neck.I don't on w what's going on with my back pains, how it shifts. Allergic to most strong pain medication.
¶That's a good idea "Choose 4-6 absolutely "must keep" things. Then, without looking too closely go through the rest, quickly"
¶Good reminder re photos, i must take more, save to a flashdrive or something,
¶I'd like to know more about the mood chart you mentioned - where can I get it?
06-09-2017 12:08 PM
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@Former-Member I really feel for you having to organise nspections and clean up for sale. My go go go is very much a broken old lady version of go go go.
Oh Oh ... lol ..."Whiskey a go go" just came to mind. Sorry Crazy woman here.
You are right
I think there are levels and it is the degree of dissociation that makes the difference for functioning. Mine is mild and frequent, possible all the time, and a little dangerous with driving but I do my best. To be honest I did not really twig that is what is happening til recently. Though I studied it in the 1980s.
You have a different diagnosis and with all the stress of your brothers and other life factors (not wanting to Blame them as such) maybe you go along the path further before you click back into awareness, and that is how you found your self sorting her things. I have done a lot of Body Work which probably has helped me minimise it and be more grounded in my body and aware .... say than my brother or sister who were young when we went into homes so less "conscious".
You are doing a heap. Se.ling a house is HUGE no matter how well or sick we are.
Are you down sizing? I am thinking it is wise for me. I dont need to 2 bathrooms to clean when son is not here.
I am delicato but have good plans in place, so no worries.
You are worth being here too, Bella.
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