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19-09-2016 02:34 PM
19-09-2016 02:34 PM
When does a sucidal thought become an action
I have a huge delema that I need to talk to and get advice on. My brother has been hearing voices for a while now and tells us he thinks of sucide every day. My mum and I came home from being out and he told us that people were outside talking about how is he's affording to pay for all comics that he was bagging.
The out of nowhere he says to us if he commits sucide that he wants us to get the people that bulling him charged, I am getting to point if mum and I are the right people to care for him. He won't go to hospital and he won't go to half way house that is close by to where we live.
It scares me when he get like this. The logical thing to do is ring his case manager and get her to deal with it but that can open another can of worms if they recommend hospital. On the other hand his quality of life is non existent.
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19-09-2016 07:35 PM
19-09-2016 07:35 PM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
I am very sad to hear that your brother, you and your family is struggling with this situation.
At least he is being open and genuine with you and not hiding his secrets thoughts away. Despite it all .. it shows a level of trust and respect in you ... that he is not covering up his distress.
Some people are shocked as they never even knew their loved one experienced suicidal ideation.
Yes get outside help ... but also acknowledge you care about his trust but also your helplessness that you dont know how to help any more than you are ...
take care
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19-09-2016 09:55 PM
19-09-2016 09:55 PM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
Thank you for that I never thought of it that way. He has an appointment with his doctor on Wednesday and I am going to try and get a private chat with his support worker. I am starting to wonder if there is more going on than we know about. I tell him I love him everyday.
It scares the hell out of me if we just stay where we are and let him make the treatment decisions he could be dead before anything gets done. He's had two offers of treatment and knocked both of them on head. One was ECT and the other was going to half way house close by to us and getting his medication sorted once and for all with people who are better equiped to look after him than Mum and I are it pains me to type that last sentence since I feel I am letting him down as his carer and sister.
At the end of the day we have to do what's in brother's best interests. I just don't know if some tough love might be order and I also don't want to make promises that I can't keep. He asked could he go back to hospital today and just that question tell you a lot aobut how he's feeling.
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20-09-2016 10:53 AM
20-09-2016 10:53 AM
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20-09-2016 11:29 AM
20-09-2016 11:29 AM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
@vmainard40 sometimes being a carer means we have to be the "bad guy"... it sucks... but it is often what is needed. I am sending you a hug because I know how horrible this reality can be.
I whole heartedly agree you should seek outside help, your brother may not like it initially, but in the long run, he will hopefully see your actions for what they are, a sign of love for him and concern for his well being.
You are not in any way betraying him, by ensuring he is safe, and cared for by people with the skills and knowledge to help him on his way to a better quality of life. Use your networks, and make sure both you and your mum are getting the support YOU need to help your brother too, You guys are amazing and need to be supported too.
xx
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20-09-2016 07:32 PM
20-09-2016 07:32 PM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
My brother is bi polar with psychosis and parnanoia. Throw in mood swings and depression for good measure. It was triggered by my father dying. I just want for him to get better. I am willing to go to the end of the earth to help him. I hate it that I can't. I am going to see his case worker tomorrow and I am going to ask for a private chat with her.
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20-09-2016 08:40 PM
20-09-2016 08:40 PM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
The talk the last time I went to appointment with him and Mum was. Let him decide what he wants to do. I think now it has gone beyond that. I love him dearly and my greatest fear right now is coming home from being out and finding Grant dead. I know this sounds dramatic but if we are not careful it could happen. I wonder if he lessening what is wrong with him to stay out of hospital. Thanks for the hug too that meant a lot. Coming on here to vent is really helping my own mental health.
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20-09-2016 09:20 PM
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20-09-2016 10:24 PM
20-09-2016 10:24 PM
Re: When does a sucidal thought become an action
Pip thanks for the sounding board. We are seeing his Psychairst and case worker tomorrow. I am going to make sure my concerns are heard. If I can I am going to try and talk to his case work alone. I don't feel I can talk about everything when he's around. It is getting to the point that I feel guilty about going to work and leaving mum to it. You are right about one thing all our quality of life is going down the toilet. All my brother wants to do is hang out around the house and what quality of life is that for a person. I even took his tablets into my bedroom tonight. He's not likely to do anything with them but it will give me peace of mind for when I eventually go to sleep tonight.
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21-09-2016 06:43 AM
21-09-2016 06:43 AM